Detailed Predictions for: Pine Mountain
Launch Lat, Long, Altitude (f): 34.63616582095678, -119.3070454653368, 7000
LZ Altitude (f): 4000
Sounding

Station:

KVBG

Date/Time:

N/A

Temp/Wind data from:

NOAA Digital Forecast

Site Forecasts
Time
(Local)
High
Temp

Puddle
Temp

Wind
(mph)
Wind
Gust
Thermal
Ceiling

(ft)
Soaring
Ceiling

(ft)
Above
Launch

(ft)
Thermal
Type
Thermal
Index

(F)
12 Midnight Mon 65 65 NE 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 AM Mon 64 64 NE 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 AM Mon 64 64 NE 5 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 AM Mon 64 64 NE 5 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 AM Mon 64 64 NE 5 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 AM Mon 64 64 E 4 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 AM Mon 62 62 E 4 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 AM Mon 62 62 E 4 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 AM Mon 64 64 SE 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 AM Mon 70 71 SE 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 AM Mon 74 76 SE 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 AM Mon 75 79 S 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Noon Mon 77 82 S 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 PM Mon 77 82 S 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 PM Mon 77 81 S 11 17 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 PM Mon 77 80 S 11 17 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 PM Mon 76 78 S 11 17 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 PM Mon 74 74 S 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 PM Mon 71 71 S 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 PM Mon 68 68 S 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 PM Mon 66 66 SSE 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 PM Mon 66 66 SSE 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 PM Mon 64 64 SSE 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 PM Mon 64 64 E 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Midnight Tue 64 64 E 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 AM Tue 64 64 E 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 AM Tue 63 63 ESE 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 AM Tue 62 62 ESE 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 AM Tue 62 62 ESE 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 AM Tue 62 62 ESE 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 AM Tue 62 62 ESE 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 AM Tue 61 61 ESE 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 AM Tue 62 62 ESE 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 AM Tue 66 67 ESE 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 AM Tue 70 72 ESE 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 AM Tue 71 75 S 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Noon Tue 73 78 S 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 PM Tue 73 78 S 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 PM Tue 73 77 S 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 PM Tue 72 75 S 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 PM Tue 72 74 S 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 PM Tue 70 70 SW 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 PM Tue 68 68 SW 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 PM Tue 66 66 SW 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 PM Tue 64 64 N 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 PM Tue 63 63 N 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 PM Tue 63 63 N 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 PM Tue 63 63 NNE 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Midnight Wed 62 62 NNE 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 AM Wed 62 62 NNE 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 AM Wed 61 61 NNE 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 AM Wed 61 61 NNE 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 AM Wed 61 61 NNE 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 AM Wed 60 60 NNE 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 AM Wed 60 60 NNE 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 AM Wed 60 60 NNE 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 AM Wed 62 62 N 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 AM Wed 64 65 N 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 AM Wed 68 70 N 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 AM Wed 71 75 NW 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Noon Wed 72 77 NW 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 PM Wed 73 78 NW 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 PM Wed 73 77 NNW 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 PM Wed 73 76 NNW 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 PM Wed 72 74 NNW 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 PM Wed 71 71 NW 5 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 PM Wed 68 68 NW 5 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 PM Wed 65 65 NW 5 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 PM Wed 63 63 N 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 PM Wed 62 62 N 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 PM Wed 62 62 N 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 PM Wed 62 62 NNE 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Midnight Thu 62 62 NNE 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 AM Thu 61 61 NNE 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 AM Thu 61 61 N 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 AM Thu 61 61 N 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 AM Thu 62 62 N 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 AM Thu 62 62 NE 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 AM Thu 62 62 NE 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 AM Thu 61 61 NE 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 AM Thu 62 62 NE 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 AM Thu 64 64 NE 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 AM Thu 67 68 NE 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 AM Thu 69 71 S 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Noon Thu 70 73 S 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 PM Thu 71 74 S 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 PM Thu 71 74 WNW 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 PM Thu 70 72 WNW 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 PM Thu 69 70 WNW 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 PM Thu 68 68 WSW 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 PM Thu 66 66 WSW 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 PM Thu 63 63 WSW 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 PM Thu 62 62 NNW 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 PM Thu 61 61 NNW 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 PM Thu 60 60 NNW 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 PM Thu 61 61 NNE 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Midnight Fri 61 61 NNE 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 AM Fri 61 61 NNE 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 AM Fri 61 61 NE 5 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 AM Fri 60 60 NE 5 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 AM Fri 59 59 NE 5 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 AM Fri 58 58 NE 5 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 AM Fri 58 58 NE 5 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 AM Fri 58 58 NE 5 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 AM Fri 59 59 E 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 AM Fri 62 62 E 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 AM Fri 65 66 E 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 AM Fri 68 71 S 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Noon Fri 69 73 S 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 PM Fri 70 74 S 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 PM Fri 70 73 SSW 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 PM Fri 69 72 SSW 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 PM Fri 68 69 SSW 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 PM Fri 66 66 SSW 5 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 PM Fri 64 64 SSW 5 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 PM Fri 61 61 SSW 5 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 PM Fri 59 59 NNE 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 PM Fri 58 58 NNE 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 PM Fri 58 58 NNE 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 PM Fri 58 58 NE 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Midnight Sat 58 58 NE 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 AM Sat 58 58 NE 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 AM Sat 58 58 NNE 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 AM Sat 58 58 NNE 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 AM Sat 57 57 NNE 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 AM Sat 57 57 NNE 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 AM Sat 56 56 NNE 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 AM Sat 56 56 NNE 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 AM Sat 57 57 NE 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 AM Sat 60 61 NE 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 AM Sat 63 65 NE 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 AM Sat 66 69 SSW 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Noon Sat 68 72 SSW 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 PM Sat 69 73 SSW 10 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 PM Sat 69 73 NW 11 17 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 PM Sat 68 71 NW 11 17 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 PM Sat 67 68 NW 11 17 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 PM Sat 66 66 WSW 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 PM Sat 64 64 WSW 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 PM Sat 61 61 WSW 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 PM Sat 59 59 N 16 24 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 PM Sat 58 58 N 16 24 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 PM Sat 57 57 N 16 24 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A

DISCLAIMER: These estimates are intended to assist in daily site selection only.  No warranty is made concerning the accuracy of these estimates.  These estimates cannot be used to determine if conditions are safe for flying.  Conditions should be evaluated at the launch site by experienced pilots before launching.

Sounding: This is the site at which the weather balloon was released.  If the flying site predicted is far from the sounding site, the estimate is not valid.  Also, the sounding is done at 12Z (4AM PST).  If a front comes through, the sounding is no longer valid. The sounding becomes less valid later in the day.

Thermal Ceiling: the lower of the height at which the thermal stops rising and the cloud level.  We can't fly into the clouds, so it doesn't matter how much higher the thermal goes.  Remember that we can't get to the top of the thermal because of our sink rate.  Our upper limit will be lower than the reported ceiling.

Soaring Ceiling: We will stop going up when the thermal is rising just fast enough to offset our sink.  It is estimated that this happens when the temperature difference between the thermal and the surrounding air is about 2 degrees F. This number is an estimate of the maximum altitude we might reach if we start at launch height, and should be more reflective of our chances of soaring than the thermal top. Please let me know how this compares with actually flying, and I will adjust it as necessary.

Above Launch: The difference between how high we might get and how high we start. This estimate does not account for ridge lift.

High Temp: This estimate is taken from the National Weather Service or WeatherAPI.com website.  Puddle temperatures can exceed this temperature. 

Puddle Temp: This estimate is based on the High Temp and the National Weather Service or WeatherAPI.com estimate of cloudiness, and the angle of the sun.  When the sun is directly overhead on a sunny day, the puddle temp is esimated to be 25 degrees warmer than the high ambient temperature. This estimate now includes a rigorous calculation of the Sun Angle, and accounts for the seasonal differences in zenith and daylight hours.

Wind: This estimate is taken from the National Weather Service or WeatherAPI.com website.

Wind Gust: This estimate is taken from the National Weather Service or WeatherAPI.com website.

Thermal Type: Blue (no cloud formation) or White (Cloud formation)

Thermal Index: This is the maximum difference in temperature between the rising packet of air (the thermal) and the surrounding air.  The difference in temperature is responsible for the buoyancy of the thermal, and larger temperature differences mean faster rising thermals.  A value of about 10 F or greater often means that the conditions are soarable.  Values above 20 could indicate rowdy thermals.

Validity of estimate: Many factors (including strong wind, fronts, cloud shadows, incorrectly predicted temperatures, etc) can affect the validity of the estimates. 

Author: Tad Hurst

Supported By: Alan Crouse [email protected]