Detailed Predictions for: Mentone
Launch Lat, Long, Altitude (f): 34.11893, -117.11256, 3170
LZ Altitude (f): 1900
Sounding

Station:

KNKX

Date/Time:

N/A

Temp/Wind data from:

NOAA Digital Forecast

Site Forecasts
Time
(Local)
High
Temp

Puddle
Temp

Wind
(mph)
Wind
Gust
Thermal
Ceiling

(ft)
Soaring
Ceiling

(ft)
Above
Launch

(ft)
Thermal
Type
Thermal
Index

(F)
12 Midnight Mon 73 71 NNE 1 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 AM Mon 73 71 NNE 2 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 AM Mon 72 70 NE 1 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 AM Mon 72 70 NE 1 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 AM Mon 71 69 NE 2 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 AM Mon 71 69 NNE 2 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 AM Mon 76 74 NE 2 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 AM Mon 79 77 NE 2 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 AM Mon 83 81 ENE 1 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 AM Mon 87 86 S 1 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 AM Mon 92 93 SW 2 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 AM Mon 96 98 WSW 3 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Noon Mon 99 102 WSW 5 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 PM Mon 99 102 WSW 8 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 PM Mon 97 100 WSW 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 PM Mon 95 94 W 8 10 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 PM Mon 90 89 W 9 11 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 PM Mon 85 83 W 6 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 PM Mon 82 80 W 4 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 PM Mon 78 76 NW 1 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 PM Mon 75 73 NNE 1 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 PM Mon 74 72 NNE 2 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 PM Mon 70 68 NE 1 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 PM Mon 70 68 NE 2 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Midnight Tue 70 68 NE 2 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 AM Tue 70 68 ENE 2 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 AM Tue 69 67 ENE 2 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 AM Tue 69 67 ENE 2 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 AM Tue 68 66 ENE 2 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 AM Tue 70 68 ENE 2 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 AM Tue 73 71 ENE 2 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 AM Tue 75 73 ENE 2 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 AM Tue 80 78 ENE 1 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 AM Tue 85 84 SW 2 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 AM Tue 89 90 SW 3 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 AM Tue 91 93 SW 5 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Noon Tue 93 96 SW 5 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 PM Tue 94 97 WSW 6 7 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 PM Tue 91 94 WSW 6 7 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 PM Tue 88 89 WSW 7 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 PM Tue 84 84 WSW 9 10 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 PM Tue 80 78 WSW 10 21 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 PM Tue 77 75 W 6 13 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 PM Tue 74 72 W 3 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 PM Tue 71 69 NW 0 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 PM Tue 70 68 NE 0 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 PM Tue 71 69 ENE 1 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 PM Tue 69 67 E 1 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Midnight Wed 67 65 ENE 2 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 AM Wed 67 65 ENE 2 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 AM Wed 66 64 ENE 2 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 AM Wed 66 64 ENE 2 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 AM Wed 66 64 ENE 2 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 AM Wed 69 67 ENE 2 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 AM Wed 72 70 ENE 2 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 AM Wed 75 73 ENE 2 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 AM Wed 80 78 E 1 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 AM Wed 85 84 SSW 2 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 AM Wed 89 90 SW 3 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 AM Wed 92 94 SW 4 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 Noon Wed 94 97 SW 5 6 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
1 PM Wed 95 98 WSW 6 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 PM Wed 92 95 WSW 7 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
3 PM Wed 89 90 W 7 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 PM Wed 85 85 W 9 12 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 PM Wed 81 79 W 9 19 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 PM Wed 78 76 W 6 12 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 PM Wed 75 73 WNW 2 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 PM Wed 73 71 NE 0 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 PM Wed 71 69 ENE 1 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 PM Wed 69 67 NE 0 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 PM Wed 66 64 NE 1 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A

DISCLAIMER: These estimates are intended to assist in daily site selection only.  No warranty is made concerning the accuracy of these estimates.  These estimates cannot be used to determine if conditions are safe for flying.  Conditions should be evaluated at the launch site by experienced pilots before launching.

Sounding: This is the site at which the weather balloon was released.  If the flying site predicted is far from the sounding site, the estimate is not valid.  Also, the sounding is done at 12Z (4AM PST).  If a front comes through, the sounding is no longer valid. The sounding becomes less valid later in the day.

Thermal Ceiling: the lower of the height at which the thermal stops rising and the cloud level.  We can't fly into the clouds, so it doesn't matter how much higher the thermal goes.  Remember that we can't get to the top of the thermal because of our sink rate.  Our upper limit will be lower than the reported ceiling.

Soaring Ceiling: We will stop going up when the thermal is rising just fast enough to offset our sink.  It is estimated that this happens when the temperature difference between the thermal and the surrounding air is about 2 degrees F. This number is an estimate of the maximum altitude we might reach if we start at launch height, and should be more reflective of our chances of soaring than the thermal top. Please let me know how this compares with actually flying, and I will adjust it as necessary.

Above Launch: The difference between how high we might get and how high we start. This estimate does not account for ridge lift.

High Temp: This estimate is taken from the National Weather Service or WeatherAPI.com website.  Puddle temperatures can exceed this temperature. 

Puddle Temp: This estimate is based on the High Temp and the National Weather Service or WeatherAPI.com estimate of cloudiness, and the angle of the sun.  When the sun is directly overhead on a sunny day, the puddle temp is esimated to be 25 degrees warmer than the high ambient temperature. This estimate now includes a rigorous calculation of the Sun Angle, and accounts for the seasonal differences in zenith and daylight hours.

Wind: This estimate is taken from the National Weather Service or WeatherAPI.com website.

Wind Gust: This estimate is taken from the National Weather Service or WeatherAPI.com website.

Thermal Type: Blue (no cloud formation) or White (Cloud formation)

Thermal Index: This is the maximum difference in temperature between the rising packet of air (the thermal) and the surrounding air.  The difference in temperature is responsible for the buoyancy of the thermal, and larger temperature differences mean faster rising thermals.  A value of about 10 F or greater often means that the conditions are soarable.  Values above 20 could indicate rowdy thermals.

Validity of estimate: Many factors (including strong wind, fronts, cloud shadows, incorrectly predicted temperatures, etc) can affect the validity of the estimates. 

Author: Tad Hurst